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PostSubject: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 2:54 am

so this is a rough copy of 1 of 2 of my list. this is the knight bus list.
2500 pts.
Chaos sorcerer -general
lvl2 , mark of tzeentch, charmed shield, talisman of preservation, third eye of tzeentch, chaos steed.

chaos sorcerer
mark slaanesh, dragonhelm, dispel scroll, luckstone, favour of the gods, chaos steed.

exalted hero
bsb, chaos steed, the bronze armour, talisman of endurance, ironcurse icon,
shield.

20 chaos knights
FC,mark of tzeentch, banner of rage

warshrine
mark of tzeentch

warshrine
mark of tzeentch

50 marauders
FC , mark of khorne, great weapons, light armour

50 marauders
FC, mark of khorne, great weapons, light armour

The idea is get across board very fast with knights they have alot of attacks and just whack on people with double buffs from warshrines, The warshrines charge units to lock them in combat and then the 2 units of marauders are the support lots of attacks at str 5 with a 6+ to make it across field against shooting armies. My only issue is they strike last but flails dont seem as strong in a unit that big. Let me know what you think. will post 2nd list.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 3:01 am

2nd list.

sorcerer lord - general
lvl 4, mark of tzeentch, sword of might, charmed sheild, dispel scroll, talisman of preservation, ironcurse icon, third eye of tzeentch.

exalted hero
armour of destiny, sheild, bsb, halberd

30 chosen
mark of tzeentch, FC, champion has favour of gods, banner of rage

warshrine
mark of tzeentch

warshrine
mark of tzeentch

50 marauders
FC mark of khorne, great weapon

50 marauders
FC mark of khorne , great weapon

50 marauders
FC mark of khorne, great weapon
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 8:10 am

you need to throw favor of the gods in there somewhere so u can modify that warshrine roll
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 9:57 am

I like the first list a lot better. A lot of armies wont be able to deal with that. The second list, the chosen seem like such a huge point sink and can be slowed easily.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 10:30 am

chosen suck. way to many points to get big spelled off the board. 20 knights!? who would stand up to that
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 1:14 pm

chinsquaz wrote:
you need to throw favor of the gods in there somewhere so u can modify that warshrine roll

First list favour of gods is on a sorcerer. 2nd list its on chosen champion
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 7:48 pm

ah so it is. didnt see that.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 7:49 pm

first list is better i think
is the tzeentch sorcerer a lord? wont he be L3?
is the slaanesh a L1?
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 8:08 pm

Slaanesh lvl 1 n tzeentch lvl 2 bc I'm running no lords to save points for knights
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 8:56 pm

cool.

i wrote this up you have 63 points to spare as written.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 11:30 pm

k either going to change characters around or throw in 2 units of dogs.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptySun Feb 26, 2012 11:31 pm

my goal was 30 knights but at this point value it very hard
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 9:13 pm

I think this is pretty close to my old 2500 point list - gives you 3 great combat blocks really. With third eye of tzeetch I don't need war shrines at 2500 points. I usually use someone elses life spells to buff my units, or shadow to weaken theirs before I crush them in combat. At 3000 i add a few knights and bring two war shrines and 1 more unit of dogs.

Having said that, this list wins a lot... but like any list it's not unbeatable if things go crazy.

2500 Pts - Warriors of Chaos Roster

Item (0 pts)
0 Eye of the Gods, 0 pts
2 Insanity
3 Unholy Resilience
4 Slaughterer's Strength
5 Razor-Sharp Horns
6 Iron-Hard Skin
7 Eye Is Closed
8 Flames of Chaos
9 Command of the Gods
10 Fearsome Aura
11 Terrifying Appearance
12 Divine Greatness

Chaos Warriors (34#, 592 pts)
34 Chaos Warriors of Tzeentch, 592 pts (Mark of Tzeentch; Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Chaos Armor; Shield) - warriors because they are hard as nails and you cant beat a 3+ armor and 5+ ward save in combat!
1 Banner of Eternal Flame

Chaos Marauders (40#, 222 pts)
40 Chaos Marauders of Slaanesh, 222 pts (Mark of Slaanesh; Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Flail) - you can take GW if you want, i usually go for flails. I would never do khorne because you will fail that frenzy restrain and you will be redirected.

Chaos Hounds (5#, 30 pts) - for the redirect and stall
5 Chaos Warhounds, 30 pts

Sorcerer Lord (1#, 409 pts)
1 Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch, 409 pts (General; Mark of Tzeentch; Barding; Level 4 Upgrade; Hand Weapon; Chaos Armor)
1 Chaos Steed
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Talisman of Preservation
1 Third Eye of Tzeentch

Exalted Hero (1#, 231 pts)
1 Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (Battle Standard Bearer), 231 pts (Mark of Tzeentch; Barding; Hand Weapon; Battle Standard Bearer)
1 Chaos Steed
1 Armour of Destiny
1 Stream of Corruption

Chaos Knights (23#, 1015 pts) - because -1WS and -1 to shoot at is great. I don't take banner of rage anymore because with a hammer like this you just dont need those extra 9-10 attacks. Also - you do not want to overrun sometimes....
22 Chaos Knights of Nurgle, 1015 pts (Mark of Nurgle; Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Barding; Hand Weapon; Chaos Armor; Shield; Causes Fear)
1 Champion of Nurgle (Mark of Nurgle; Hand Weapon; Chaos Armor; Shield)
23 Chaos Steed
1 Standard of Discipline

Validation Report:
Army Subtype: Chaos Army; Edition: 8th Edition; Game Type: Normal Game; Special Rules: Forbid Regiments of Renown
Roster satisfies all enforced validation rules

Composition Report:
Points of Lords: 409 (0 - 625)
Points of Heroes: 231 (0 - 625)
Points of Core: 814 (625 - Unlimited)
Points of Special: 1015 (0 - 1250)
Points of Rare: 0 (0 - 625)

Total Roster Cost: 2499

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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 10:00 pm

why nurgle?
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 11:47 pm

For the -1 to shoot mostly. When charging a gunline its usually -1 for long range, -1 for stand and shoot, and -1 for nurgle. Also it help vs flamers.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 2:18 am

I agree with the Nurgle Knights, the Mark of Khorne has been letting me down lately with people catching on to the fact that I have to overrun. Losing an elite unit to overrun -> flank is never fun.

The core of my army lately has been:
30 Marauders - Flails, musician
30 Marauders - Flails, musician
50 Marauders - GWs, musician, MoK
50 Marauders - GWs, musician, MoK

Even though I just said MoK has been letting me down, these guys never do. I've gone 5-0 since I started using the 30 man hordes running in front of the 50 man hordes. The flail marauders might seem odd, but they are dirt cheap (around 180 I think) and pack a huge punch for those points. Initiative 4, S5 attacks on a unit that I'm ok with dying after they've done their damage. They are just there to soften up targets before the big units get into the fray.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 2:33 am

i love the extra attack but i can see why it could end bad
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 7:48 am

I also put crown of command on my sorcerer lord. Its great but not always needed.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyThu Mar 01, 2012 12:08 am

Crown of command should really be in every bus/star list that has little static res. One shadow hex and suddenly you're str 2. Very easy to accidently lose a single round of combat and then get run down. Not saying it always happends but it sucks when it does and the crown is 35 points spent on peice of mind.
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyThu Mar 01, 2012 12:19 am

yeah when i take crown i take scroll of shielding instead of the dispell scroll
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PostSubject: Re: WoC list ideas   WoC list ideas EmptyThu Mar 01, 2012 12:35 pm

the banner that makes and doubles insane courage is super nice
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