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GZealot
Posts : 189 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 38
| Subject: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:38 pm | |
| So with the new blood angels book a decent about of stuff changed with my previous design of Marine razorback army. Taking a suggestion made by my cousin I spawned this interesting design of a list.
HQ Reclusiarch Melta bombs 135pts
Troops Assualt Squad x5 Sergeant(thunder Hammer) Razorback(twin linked Heavy bolter) 150pts
Assault Squad x6 Meltagun, Sergeant(Power fist) Razorback(Twin linked heavy bolter) 173pts
Assault Squad x6 Meltagun, Sergeant(Power fist) Razorback(Twin linked heavy bolter) 173pts
Assault Squad x6 Flamer, Sergeant(Power weapon) Razorback(Twin linked lascannon) 193pts
Assault Squad x6 Flamer, Sergeant(Power weapon) Razorback(Twin linked lascannon) 193pts
Elites Furioso Extra armor 140pts
Furioso Extra armor 140pts
Fast Attack Baal Predator Heavy Bolter sponsons 140pts
Baal Predator Heavy Bolter sponsons 140pts
Heavy Support Devastator Squad x5 Missile Launcher x4 Razorback(Twin linked Heavy bolter 185pts
Devastator Squad x5 Heavy bolter x4 Razorback(twin linked lascannon) 220pts
total comes to 1982 In 1850pt game I drop a furioso
Whatca guys think? I'm actually digging this format a lot requires me to re convert a bunch of models but that doesn't bother me too much. | |
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Baneon
Posts : 415 Join date : 2009-09-16 Age : 47 Location : Pasadena, MD
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:31 pm | |
| Been toying with the new book myself for a more forgiving learn the rules 40k army cause my guard have been tearing me a new one recently. I'm a little to aggressive and straight line to my objective then that army should be played. Trying to avoid the traps in the list though has been problimatic. Your cousin has been trying to get me to play with vanilla marines but I really liked the Blood Angels models. I've gotten 1 Sang guard box (not really intending to play them much but I liked em) and 2 boxes of Death Company. DC is really expensive though so I might just go with 5 of em for 2000 and up it to 10 if I'm higher points value. I think the squad topped at 500 points with jetpacks and 2 TF, 2 PF and 2 Inferno guns. 1/4th my army just seemed to much. Think I'm going to try for a 2 Tac 2 Assault mix for scoring and then figure the rest out. | |
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GZealot
Posts : 189 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:08 pm | |
| Dude your spending way too many points in different war gear items for the death company. You really don't need all that stuff to make them a good assault unit. The list wouldn't work probably in Vanilla marines because I can't use special weapons in the tactical units. I designed an alternative list that had 6 man tactical squads with combi weapon sergeant but I feel like this list design is stronger than that one. Even though i don't have boltguns I have plenty of supporting fire for all of the assault squads and I have some neat models I can convert now. As I said before I took my list design from the PDF blood angels book and reworked it for the new book. | |
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Baneon
Posts : 415 Join date : 2009-09-16 Age : 47 Location : Pasadena, MD
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:52 pm | |
| I'll tone down the DC and see what I come up with. Maybe I'll bounce the list up here and see what you think. Thanks.
And your list looks sharp I'm going to shamelessly steal some ideas out of it. Look forward to seeing it on the table. | |
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GZealot
Posts : 189 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:10 pm | |
| Thanks, I'm always willing to help design Armies. =) I'm also really looking forward to start building it again but I won't be able to work on it for about another month. | |
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Baneon
Posts : 415 Join date : 2009-09-16 Age : 47 Location : Pasadena, MD
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:53 am | |
| Well I sat down last night and did some work, this is definitely not the final version as I'm about 100 points over the 2k mark.
Reclusiarch w/ Jet Pack
10 Tactical marines w/ Flamer, Missile Launcher & Rhino 10 Tactical marines w/ Flamer, Missile Launcher & Rhino 6 Assault Marines w/ Razorback & Lacannons 6 Assault Marines w/ Razorback & Lacannons 10 Death Company w/ Jetpacks
Baal Predator w/ HBs Baal Predator w/ HBs
Dev Sqd w/ 4 Missiles, Razorback with Lascannons Dev Sqd w/ 4 Missiles, Razorback with Lascannons
Now what I started contemplating this morning is the jump packs on the Death Company. Between them and the Reclusiarch that's a whoppin 185pts (missing 65 for a LR), if I can come up with some more points I can mount them in a Land Raider instead and get the same effect. The points could come from a Tac Squad changing into an Assault Squad (netting 67pts so pays for the change from JPs to LR), however at that point it might be worth upgrading them with a Power Fist and a Thunderhammer. I'd have to drop to 10 total in the DC squad so 1 gets dropped for 20 pts so I'm 81 pts over and needing to make some points for some gubbins in the squad (don't want them getting hit by a walker and not being able to hurt it). | |
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GZealot
Posts : 189 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:25 am | |
| I think your focusing on too much anti tank with all the lascannons when you already have a bunch of Missile Launchers. Here is what I did to rework that list you have added extra support fire and still kept some anti tank.
Reclusiarch Jump pack 155
Tactical squad x10 Meltagun, Missile Launcher(Razorback Twin linked heavy bolter) 230
Tactical squad x10 Meltagun, Missile Launcher(Razorback Twin linked heavy bolter) 230
Assault Squad x6 Razorback(Twin linked Lascannon) 173
Assault Squad x6 Razorback(Twin linked Lascannon) 173
Death Company x10 Jump packs 350
Baal predator Heavy Bolter Sponsons 140
Baal predator Heavy Bolter Sponsons 140
Devastator Squad x 5 Missile Launcher x4, Razorback(Twin linked Heavy bolter) 185
Devastator Squad x 5 Missile Launcher x4, Razorback(Twin linked Heavy bolter) 185
Total 1961 pts leaving 38 points to spend how you would like. The only bad thing about this design is you really should split the tactical squads into combat squads which will give 2 more extra kill points to the enemy but allows you more flexiblity on troop placement. you have plenty of anti-tank Land raiders though some what common in friendly games are much less common in tournament play.. but with the new blood angels that might change. I seriously toyed with making a 3-4 landraider army with the blood angels that would be for 1850. I doubt I would ever make it though. | |
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Baneon
Posts : 415 Join date : 2009-09-16 Age : 47 Location : Pasadena, MD
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:32 am | |
| Thanks Greg, looks good. They LR wasn't so much for more Anti tank but a delivery system for the Death Company. Almost the same points as the Jetpacks they have and has a physical model on the board that can affect the game other then moving the DC around. | |
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larry
Posts : 4 Join date : 2009-09-20 Age : 46 Location : laurel
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:44 pm | |
| are you droping the jump packs on the assault squads for the razorbacks? and why? - GZealot wrote:
Assault Squad x6 Razorback(Twin linked Lascannon) 173
Assault Squad x6 Razorback(Twin linked Lascannon) 173 | |
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Baneon
Posts : 415 Join date : 2009-09-16 Age : 47 Location : Pasadena, MD
| Subject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0 Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:01 am | |
| Yes and it gives you 35 pts off the transport. | |
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