New Empire Rumors

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[QUOTE=Harry@Warseer]These are the Empire rumours I have pulled together from previous threads:
I have tried to credit rumours to the original posters (when I made a note of it).
I will try and keep it updated as we hear more snippets.
Do let me know if I have missed anything.

... and remember ... these is just rumorz!

Rumours about the Timescale:

There are rumours of Empire in 2012 (I had them in June but also in Mar/April with a BIG "?")
The next most complete project was empire. The book was done, all of the box art for new minis was done so it's imminent.(Darnock via birdy)
There are rumours that some bits will arrive before the army book (as with VC) (Harry, Mirabeau, malladin.ben)
The rumour is the War altar kit arrives with a couple of characters before the rest. (Harry. malladin.ben)

Rumours about the Games developers:

There is a rumour that Jervis and Jeremy Vetock are up to their bushy eyebrows and wire rimmed spectacles in this one. (Harry)

Rumours about the army:

Ulric is back on the menu.
Teutogen Guard are in. (ghost21)
Religion / the gods are more prominent. (Harry, ghost21, Mirbeau)
Theres also a sphere of influence so Sigmarites will not be affected by Priests of Ulric and Ulricans wont be affected by sigmaric priests...etc. Different gods priests have different abilities. Ulric are ‘frothing loonies’ and Morr focus on undead. Priests can impact on a units abilities when they join them. (ghost21).
There is a new focus on Morr. Priests of Morr, Knights of Morr, Garden of Morr, etc.

Rumours about models:

Empire will get 4 plastic kits (Darnock via birdy) 5 plastic kits (Harry) and some plastic one piece characters as well as some old models being redone in finecast.

Rumours of Characters/Lords/Heroes

There are rumours that more named Elector counts will be availaible.
Marius Leitdorf will be re-released in Finecast.
Boris Todbringer has been 'hinted' (Mirbeau)
Female sorceress/battle Wizard has been done. (Eldargal) (I assume a one piece plastic)
There is also a rumour about a priestess of Myrmidia (ghost21)
I heard something about a mounted Wizard.
I heard something about an engineer (possibly also mounted?)

Rumours of Karl Franz OR Lord/Hero on Griffon.

There are rumours of a plastic Lord/Hero on a Griffon that could 'pass' as Karl Franz. (Harry)
There is a rumour that it IS Karl Franz. (which is an interesting development as this is the first time we have seen a special, named character as a plastic kit).
“The new plastic Empire hero on griffon is also supposed to be very nice” (hastings)
Griffin, which to be honest is a bit of a let down. It's big, Manticore sized, and looks almost like an update of the Deathclaw mini only a bit more static, oddly it was painted a deep ruddy brown. (Darnock via birdy)

Rumours of a plastic War Altar (and something new?)

There are rumours of a dual plastic kit which makes a War Altar and something else. (Harry, hastings, ghost21, malladin.ben)
It is rumoured that the War Altar can be customised to make Sigmar, Ulric or Morr. (ghost21)
There is a rumour that it makes a War Altar and a “College of Magic wizardlordmobile”. (NatTreehouse, Harry)
A war altar combo kit with a wizardy casting platform thing which had lots of globes almost like a celestial model. (Darnock via birdy)

Rumours of new Warrior priests:

There are rumors of new warrior priests for Sigmar, Ulric, and Morr. (ghost21, malladin.ben)
There is a rumours of Warrior priest kit like the wizards kit.
These may be sculpts done for the plastic War Altar. (Rather than an additional kit or individual sculpts)
The Ulricians may just be finecast versions of the excellent ones from the storm of Chaos. (ghost21)
There is also a rumour about a priestess of Myrmidia (ghost21)

Rumours of Demi-Griffon knights.

There are rumours of Demi-Griffon knights. (Eldargal and others )

Rumours of Inner Circle knights:

There is a rumour of a new box of inner circle knights with lots of options for different orders.(ghost21)
This is the reason for no new knights. (ghost21)

There is a rumour that the Inner Circle Knights and Demi-griffon knights are the same dual kit.

Rumours of new Knights:

No new knights. (hastings)
Rumour of the sprue re-cut for the knights. (ghost21)
Rumour of individual Knightly Orders rather than redone generic set. (eldargal)
Rumour of new Knights of Morr. (Mirbeau and others )
Rumour of more packs like the blazing sun bits pack to customize the existing knights. (ghost21)

Rumours of a Nuln Siege Cannon:

Rumours of a BIG cannon. (Darnock via a birdy, ghost21)
Massive cannon used to defend the walls of Nuln. (Darnock via birdy)
The cannon is big … as big as the ogres …. Mock up had “Nuln” plastered on the front. (ghost21)
This was rumoured as part of the duel war alter kit. (Darnock via a birdy)
This has been poo pooed by others (hastings, NatTreehouse)

There are rumours of some things back from 4th edition: (ghost21)

These are the options:
(Note: 'Options'. No way we get ALL of this. This is just a list of what has been left behind)

- Individual Knightly Orders
- Reiksguard (foot)
- Kislev Horse Archers
- Kislev Winged Lancers
- Ogres
- Dwarfs
- Halflings (and Halfling Hot Pot)
- War Wagon
- and various named characters.

Rumours of Halflings (specifically):

There are rumours of a return of halflings. (eldargal, Harry, heihei)

Rumours of the War Wagon (specifically)

There is a rumour the War Wagon is back in the book with a combat, shooty or mixed option.(ghost21)

Exciting isn’t it?

BRING IT ON!
Seem fairly exhaustive.

Harry is very reliable, sounds like a lot of cool stuff!

war wagon/war altar kit would be cool. also each army has gotten something "big" (terrorgeist, super spider, etc...) so the big cannon may be it

i hope balthazar is still in as is cause he's what my empire army is based on

got the book today. very well rounded. any questions just post

hey are the bound spells from the planet thing and lens thing innate? and is there a limit to the amount of bound spells a warrior preist can cast? I looked at the book today but can remember

yes they are innate
he knows all 3 prayers. as far as i know you can only cast a spell once unless it specificly says otherwise

cant wait to see what the changes are. most interested in the number of dispel dice, magic changes for inate spells, and engineers for warchanes.

the 2 arcane altars both do it. the hysk (giant monicle) adds 1 dispel dice and all units within 6 have a 6+ ward

the hurricanum (planet thing) adds 1 power and all units within 6 get +1 to hit in close combat

hysk has bound 4 banishment spell
hurricanum has bound 4 damage spell 24' small template and scatter d6. if you roll a hit it doesnt scatter. use the result of the d6 scatter roll to determin the effect as well.
1-nothing
2-S2 hit and -1 to hit shooting n h2h till the casters next magic phase
3-if the units under the hole n unegaged rotate it with the scatter dice. hit=yoru choice
4/5-S3(6) hits
6-S3( hits. the 8 gets d6 wounds

if this hits flyers it also does d6 S4 hits as well

engineers r the same but get a lookout sir roll from the war machines

i have a question im starting empire and i like how the volley guns look but do the take modifiers when they shot like long range and such things?

yeah it uses the BS of the crew (or engineer) so normal modifications apply.


from what ive read

well that makes them alittle worse but okay thank you

yeah auto hits are going away. leadbelchers changed, volley gun changes, im sure the organ gun will too

So I'm guessing then they would suffer from multiple shots as well?

most things have the multi shot rule givin. since each barrel is fired instead of 1 that u reload id say not. it doesnt have that rule the others do like repeater pistols. so just range cover skirmish etc....