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joko12
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2009-09-25 Age : 37 Location : Glen Burnie Battle Bunker
| Subject: ETC Draft 2 Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:08 pm | |
| Rules changes: - Characters will get "look out sir" versus the following spells that automatically kill models or automatically remove an entire regiment: Dwellers Below, Final Transmutation, Dreaded 13th, Infernal Gateway 11-12 effect. Normal requirements for lookout sir apply.
General Restrictions: 2400 Points. No Special or Named Characters. Army used can be any of the currently published GW Army books. Chaos Dwarves and DoW definatly gone? A maximum of 3 identical core choices may be taken (regardless of equipment and other upgrades) A maximum of 5 warmachines may be taken per army Max. 45 models with missile weapons with a range of 20”+ (not incl. war machines, characters and chariots). Unit sizes of are limited as follows: - Non-infantry units (including monstrous infantry): Maximum 16 models/unit - Infantry costing 5 points or less: Maximum 50 models/unit - Infantry costing 6-9 points: Maximum 40 models/unit - Infantry costing 10 points or more: Maximum 30 models/unit
Magic Restrictions: - Apart from Winds of magic and Channeling, an army may only generate 2 PD/DD per magic phase. - You may have units/abilities that actually would generate more than 2 extra dice, but any excess dice are lost - Some magic items/abilities count as generating dice toward this limit. - “Count as” items/abilities may never exceed a cumulative 2PD/DD per phase. This means that if you take the power scroll, you may not take any other items that “count as adding PD/DD” - All modifers are applied from the army list and will not change during the game.
Item restrictions: - Power Scroll counts as generating 2 PD and 2 DD each magic phase - Each Loremaster ability counts as generating 1 PD each magic phase - Anything item that auto-dispels a spell counts as generating 1 DD each magic phase. - Folding Fortress is not allowed
Army Specific Restrictions: Beastmen: No Restrictions Bretts: Trebuchet is a 0-1 choice Dark Elves: Hydra is a 0-1 choice. Max. 35 repeater Crossbows in the army Dwarves: Each spellbreaker/spelleater rune counts as "one item". Anvil of doom counts as warmachine; Grudge Throwers are a 0-2 choice; Max +4 dispel dice instead of +2 DOC: Flamers are a 0-1 choice. Siren Song may only be taken once Empire: Steam Tank counts as 2 warmachines; Tank, Rocket battery and Engineers are a 0-1 choice High Elves: Book of Hoeth counts as generating +2PD and +2 DD; Shard and Crystal as +1DD/phase Lizards: Salamanders are a 0-1 Choice; Terradons, Chameleon Skinks and Stegadons (any kind) are 0-2 choices; Beclaming Cogitations counts as generating +1 PD and +2DD/phase, Cupped hands as +2PD/phase. Ogres: No Restrictions O&G: No Restrictions Skaven: Hell Pit Abomination is a 0-1 choice; Gutter runners are a 0-2 choice; Engineers are a 0-3 choice Vampires: Wraiths and Varghulf are 0-1 choices TK: No restrictions WE: Wand of Wych Elm counts as generating +1 DD/phase Warriors of Chaos: Hellcannon is a 0-1 choice. Infernal Puppet counts as generating +1 PD and +2DD /phase; Tendrils of Tzeench and Conjoined Homunculus both count as generating +1 PD/Phase. | |
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GZealot
Posts : 189 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:17 pm | |
| I like that they bumped the unit size maximum. Not sure about everything else atm cause i'm not that familiar with 8th edition yet. | |
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scooter
Posts : 2088 Join date : 2009-08-12 Age : 41 Location : Glen burnie
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:08 pm | |
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joko12
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2009-09-25 Age : 37 Location : Glen Burnie Battle Bunker
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:40 pm | |
| Its much better than the first draft at least. | |
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mikhaila
Posts : 482 Join date : 2009-10-04
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:52 pm | |
| Yeah, going in the right direction. I still scratch my head about a few things. And strangely enough, the orc and goblin army I'm starting to repaint (lots of 2nd edition 22 year old models) is ETC compliant. This confuses me. | |
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joko12
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2009-09-25 Age : 37 Location : Glen Burnie Battle Bunker
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:02 pm | |
| Yeah I don't know what they are doing but its starting to look better.
We will see | |
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Baneon
Posts : 415 Join date : 2009-09-16 Age : 47 Location : Pasadena, MD
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:46 am | |
| No disruption which is kinda odd as I thought that was their main concentration. | |
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scooter
Posts : 2088 Join date : 2009-08-12 Age : 41 Location : Glen burnie
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:53 am | |
| They really needed to take that part out it kills the point of 8th. | |
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Lincoln
Posts : 793 Join date : 2009-08-12 Location : Columbia, MD
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:09 am | |
| I like their unit size restrictions. Seems pretty right on to be - except I am still afraid of 9 blood knights with characters in the unit | |
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Swilkins
Posts : 52 Join date : 2010-08-06
| Subject: Re: ETC Draft 2 Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:41 am | |
| I personally don't like unit size restrictions. I can see making certain units 0-1 but i really dislike unit size restrictions. | |
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